Audi Halogen to Xenon Conversion A3 8p
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03-07-201610:07 AM #1
Active Fellow member One Ring
Audi A3 Halogen Assembly to Bi-Xenon Assembly (2009-2013)
Hi,
I accept a Audi A3 2009 with the stock halogen Assembly and purchased the Bi-xenon headlight associates. The parts i have so far is:
2 Bi-xenon assemblies (2009-2013 version)
2 anchor
ii DS3 HID lightsI have also read that I need a wire kit from Kufatec, but in some thread i take read that some people were able to bypassed the wire. Also needed is VAG-COM programming.
Does anyone know a shop in the Greater Toronto area that has done the upgrade from the Halogen Headlight assembly to the xenon for Audi or VW'south. Experience doing so with whatsoever model is fine. Or if anyone has done this on their own and willing to practise mine for a price PM me.
Thanks,
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03-08-201607:36 AM #2
Veteran Member Iv Rings
I've done the conversion for the rear tail lights from halogen to Euro (ROW) FL-LED.
I just purchased Ecode (Euro spec) Bixenon AFS headlights to replace my Northward American (NA) Bixenon AFS headlights on my 08 A5.
Although we have different cars, we can discuss some similarities that we may be confronted with. Bulletin me and we can substitution phone numbers to discuss some options.2008 A5|Ice Argent|3.ii QTip|Premium Pkg|Technology Pkg|B&O & JL10W0-4 sub|15/20mm spacers|HID Fogs|Ext. & Int. LED's|RS5 grill|AWE/K&Northward Intake|Quad tipped OEM mufflers|CF Mirrors, Spoiler & Diffuser|Facelift Ecode Tail lights|CR-15 Strut Bar|Ecode headlights|Alu Kreuz|ProdigyWerks 6pot 2pc 356mm front 350mm 2pc rear BBK|Eibach springs
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03-15-201605:48 AM #iii
Agile Fellow member One Ring
Originally Posted by jschrauwen
Thanks for the info. Did yous do it yourself? Or a local shop?
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03-fifteen-201606:15 AM #four
Veteran Fellow member Iv Rings
Originally Posted by Drewlocks
A little of both. I believe I pm'd you to exchange phone numbers.
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2008 R8|Ice Silver|R-Tronic|Huffman TT Conversion|Focal/Mosconi stereo upgrade|H&R Coilovers|HRE wheels
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03-18-201601:58 PM #v
Veteran Member Three Rings
Originally Posted by Drewlocks
I've done this retrofit on my A3 and I would like to tell you that it'south a project bigger than yous think. Wiring the headlights is the easy part. If you desire it washed properly (and I'd say practise it right or don't do it at all) y'all need to also go the leveling sensors for front end and rear plus the headlights control module. Wiring all this gets challenging. Y'all basically need to run wires from the rear left and front left wheel plus from both headlights within the car, where the OEM location of the headlights module should exist. Plus I'm not fifty-fifty mentioning all the connections to the CE module.
If you got the AFS (turning left&correct) cornering headlights you too need to tap into the steering wheel module to go the steering angle bespeak. For AFS you volition need specific headlights, ballasts and headlights control module though.
What I'1000 trying to say here is this will cost a lot in labor to have it done properly. Remember about all this before you offset the project.Audi A3 2.0T 6MT - UNITRONIC K04
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03-18-201602:52 PM #6
Active Fellow member I Ring
Originally Posted by Finder
Hey Finder, Thanks for the information. I volition not be going with the AFS pick because the headlight assemblies I already have don't accept that feature. As for the install did you lot exercise it yourself? or did yous go to a local shop. And if you did it yourself what would charge to do mine? The part that I'm fearing is in the Kuratec adapter install into ECU. I ordered a VAGCOM and pending for the delivery., so I could accept intendance of that office.
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03-22-201608:05 AM #7
Veteran Member Three Rings
I've heard of a few people having bad luck with Kufatec, from taking forever to make the harness to sending out an incorrectly wired one. Ane reason might be that in EU Audis accept a lot more in options and some are wired differently than in NA.
Because of this I decided to wire everything myself using the official Audi runway diagrams.Audi A3 ii.0T 6MT - UNITRONIC K04
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OEM mods: Adaptive Bi-Xenons west/AFS, FB MFSW, S3 cluster, MY2012 RNS-East, dimming mirrors in&out +moreAudi A4 B8 Avant west/ ADS&Tech Pkg - UNITRONIC Phase two
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OEM mods: B8.v Euro LED taillights, B8.5 RS4 steering wheel+more than
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03-22-201608:46 AM #eight
Veteran Fellow member Four Rings
I had a Kufatec adapter harness installed last Fall for my conversion from NA Spec) Halogen tail lights to (Euro Spec) FL-LED. Everything worked without an effect. I will say that I did not utilise the Kufatec dongle for the final coding process every bit suggested in the forums and had it washed manually - again without whatsoever issues.
If people take had issues with the Kufatec adapter harnesses, it's probably because they didn't educate themselves well enough before attempting the project. At that place are distinct differences for non only the tail lights , just likewise the headlights likewise. Knowing these differences from the get go will bode well to a successful and uneventful conversion.
In the case of tail lights - NA Element of group vii to Euro FL-LED, one must be cogniscent of the differences. Euro tail lights do not employ the corner mark part - NA does. Euro tail lights have rear fog light function - early NA ones did not.
Because of these differences, it means that a suitable adapter with the correct pin-outs is required as the Euro rear tail light connecters use a 4 pin whereas the NA ones use a 5 pin.This same sort of difference tin besides exist seen for the front headlights. NA spec use amber corner markers whereas the Euro (Ecode) ones exercise not utilize the (Articulate) corner markers besides.
So if someone has a NA halogen headlight and wishes to convert to a Euro spec (Ecodes) headlight, they have to know what differences there are and what's all involved to successfully complete it. Evidently, the conversion from NA halogen to Ecodes halogen would be the easiest but ti would nevertheless require adapters. If they wish to get from NA halogen to ecodes Bixenon, so there'southward more than work involved so just adapters. There'southward also control modules involved besides. And naturally, if they chose to go from NA halogen to Ecodes Bixenon with AFS1, and so this obviously will be the well-nigh complex and most costly.
And if that's not confusing enough, i should also brainwash themselves every bit to the right oem part numbers for the Ecodes they want to use. Why? Because the oem part numbers will delineate if those headlights are designated as driving on the right (LHD) or driving on the left (RHD).
At that place can be equally many as 8 dissimilar oem role numbers (4 per side) for the correct Ecodes headlights based on year of upshot/install and whether a complete unit or partial (without bulbs/ballasts). This doesn't even factor in the Valeo function numbers either.2008 A5|Ice Silverish|3.two QTip|Premium Pkg|Engineering Pkg|B&O & JL10W0-iv sub|15/20mm spacers|HID Fogs|Ext. & Int. LED's|RS5 grill|AWE/Yard&N Intake|Quad tipped OEM mufflers|CF Mirrors, Spoiler & Diffuser|Facelift Ecode Tail lights|CR-15 Strut Bar|Ecode headlights|Alu Kreuz|ProdigyWerks 6pot 2pc 356mm forepart 350mm 2pc rear BBK|Eibach springs
2008 R8|Ice Silver|R-Tronic|Huffman TT Conversion|Focal/Mosconi stereo upgrade|H&R Coilovers|HRE wheels
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03-22-201610:07 AM #9
Veteran Member Three Rings
I was referring specifically to the Kufatec harness for xenon headlights retrofit.
And I wouldn't compare a tail lights retrofit to a headlights one. There is A LOT more work and components involved with headlights.
Tail lights are easy, specially if you lot orders adapters. All you need to do is install them and then do coding.Audi A3 ii.0T 6MT - UNITRONIC K04
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OEM mods: Adaptive Bi-Xenons westward/AFS, FB MFSW, S3 cluster, MY2012 RNS-E, dimming mirrors in&out +moreAudi A4 B8 Avant westward/ ADS&Tech Pkg - UNITRONIC Stage 2
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OEM mods: B8.five Euro LED taillights, B8.5 RS4 steering wheel+more
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03-22-2016x:49 AM #10
Veteran Member Iv Rings
Originally Posted by Finder
I understand what you're saying about the retrofit from element of group vii to xenon headlights. I was making an analogy based on my by tail low-cal experience.
I just finished sourcing Ecode headlights for my conversion from NA spec Bixenon AFS1 to Ecodes spec Bixenon AFS1 so I'1000 fairly enlightened of the differences. I spent over 4 months researching the field of study. In my case, information technology will be plug an play as I have already coded out the amber corner markers. Still, I will not be using the oem D3S bulb/igniter combo or it's ballast. Rather every bit a further extention of my ecodes install, I'll be sourcing D1/D2 xenon bulb adapters (they look exactly similar the D3S igniter). I'll be plumbing fixtures to those adapters a pair of Philips DL50 50W (Fatboy) D2S bulbs. To compliment those bulbs, I'll be using a D2S 50W anchor (true 50W). This conversion will elevate the normal 2800-3200 lumen output of oem D3S bulbs/ballasts to 5300 lumen. Combine that output increase to the ecode headlights which use a articulate projector lens as opposed to the fresnel (opague) type used on the NA Bixenon projectors, andI should take an ideal fix-upwards.I believe I did mention that a headlight conversion is far more complex, involved and costly then a tail light 1 and that I made note of the various degrees of headlight conversions.
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2008 R8|Ice Silvery|R-Tronic|Huffman TT Conversion|Focal/Mosconi stereo upgrade|H&R Coilovers|HRE wheels
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03-22-201601:43 PM #eleven
Active Member One Ring
Originally Posted by Finder
And then buying a new wire harness and rewire the automobile is improve than using the Kufatec harness? How many hours did that take?
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03-23-2016ten:43 AM #12
Agile Member I Band
Originally Posted by Finder
Hey Finder, Do you have a list of part numbers I would need for the replacement harness?
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03-23-201612:51 PM #xiii
Veteran Fellow member Three Rings
Unfortunately you can't buy a new OEM harness for what you demand to exercise because there isn't ane.
Unremarkably the wires that are needed for this are function of the chief wiring harness of the machine for a vehicle with xenon headlights from manufacturing plant.
I did my own wiring by buying wire spools, diverse pins, plugs, grommets, tubes, harness record and everything that'due south needed for soldering.
It took me a lot of time (about 50 hours) merely everything is similar OEM. I ran wires along the main wiring harness, through OEM locations, all components are in the right place.
I didn't use plug adapters for the headlights, only instead I removed all the pins and inserted them in the new plugs along with all the extra wires.
Likewise my headlights are AFS and so I had to run wires to the steering wheel control module also.Last edited past Finder; 03-23-2016 at 01:57 PM.
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OEM mods: Adaptive Bi-Xenons w/AFS, FB MFSW, S3 cluster, MY2012 RNS-E, dimming mirrors in&out +moreAudi A4 B8 Avant w/ ADS&Tech Pkg - UNITRONIC Stage 2
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OEM mods: B8.5 Euro LED taillights, B8.five RS4 steering bicycle+more
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03-27-201611:35 AM #14
Active Member I Band
Originally Posted by Finder
Hey Finder. Is there a diagram that tells you where to put the wires?
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03-27-201606:36 PM #15
Veteran Member 3 Rings
There are diagrams for everything
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Unitronic|IE|Eurojet|Spulen|BSH|GFB|ECS|Fluidampr| Southbend|Wavetrac|SQS|Bilstein|H&R|Tyrolsport|Sup erPro|Powerflex|034|PTP|USP|Neuspeed|Votex|AWE|Mil ltek
OEM mods: Adaptive Bi-Xenons westward/AFS, FB MFSW, S3 cluster, MY2012 RNS-E, dimming mirrors in&out +more thanAudi A4 B8 Avant due west/ ADS&Tech Pkg - UNITRONIC Phase two
Eurocode|CR-15|ECS|Milltek|Votex|AFE
OEM mods: B8.5 Euro LED taillights, B8.5 RS4 steering wheel+more
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